I'll try to keep this short:
I've been dating a Sag for four months and feel like I am falling in love.
I know he really, really likes me too -- maybe loves me.
All I want to do is tell him. Gush to him. Tell him how passionate I am about him. But I sense he would be uncomfortable with it?
Am I projecting, possibly?
What I do manage to communicate to him are the things about him that bother me. He acts very brash sometimes. He does not say please and thank you, as often as I would like to hear it. He does not hold doors, usually. He has made crude jokes involving me in front of a friend.
I know he means no real harm. He is a good person, a nice person. I don't know what it is about him. But, I am very sensitive. I place a high value on the little niceties in life. And I am sorry, I want to be treated like a princess! The point being, if you treat me like a princess/queen, I will treat you like a king.
Can Sag just not get along with this approach to love and romance and relationships? Is he just too much into "let's play, let's be friends, why all serious?"
I do very much want to tell him about my positive feelings for him, not just the negative (we tend to talk about those things in a lighthearted way and the conversations are generally amiable and productive, SO FAR). But how do I? I'm nervous, I guess.
I'm a very emotional person (Sun in Pisces, Cancer Rising, Mars in Cancer, Venus in Pisces -- Moon in Aquarius) and I need to express! But I don't want to drive him away.
Any pointers, Sagittarians, on how you like to fall in love, and how you like to have that love expressed to you -- what are you comfortable with?
He's a Venus in Scorpio, Moon in Taurus, Mars in Sag, Gemini Rising.
Not short. But thanks.
I've been dating a Sag for four months and feel like I am falling in love.
I know he really, really likes me too -- maybe loves me.
All I want to do is tell him. Gush to him. Tell him how passionate I am about him. But I sense he would be uncomfortable with it?
Am I projecting, possibly?
What I do manage to communicate to him are the things about him that bother me. He acts very brash sometimes. He does not say please and thank you, as often as I would like to hear it. He does not hold doors, usually. He has made crude jokes involving me in front of a friend.
I know he means no real harm. He is a good person, a nice person. I don't know what it is about him. But, I am very sensitive. I place a high value on the little niceties in life. And I am sorry, I want to be treated like a princess! The point being, if you treat me like a princess/queen, I will treat you like a king.
Can Sag just not get along with this approach to love and romance and relationships? Is he just too much into "let's play, let's be friends, why all serious?"
I do very much want to tell him about my positive feelings for him, not just the negative (we tend to talk about those things in a lighthearted way and the conversations are generally amiable and productive, SO FAR). But how do I? I'm nervous, I guess.
I'm a very emotional person (Sun in Pisces, Cancer Rising, Mars in Cancer, Venus in Pisces -- Moon in Aquarius) and I need to express! But I don't want to drive him away.
Any pointers, Sagittarians, on how you like to fall in love, and how you like to have that love expressed to you -- what are you comfortable with?
He's a Venus in Scorpio, Moon in Taurus, Mars in Sag, Gemini Rising.
Not short. But thanks.
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Re: How to tell Sag you love them
Mon, September 3, 2007 - 7:54 PMConsidering the Venus in Scorpio, it might work out.
There is more to relationships than astrology though.
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Re: How to tell Sag you love them
Tue, September 4, 2007 - 3:04 AMmake a game of it. challenge his Sag need to be a knight in shinning armor. Tell him he's your not-boyfriend becouse and he has no idea how to treat a princess, make this a playfull jest with just enough seriosness to it to leave him wondering. tease him in front of his friends (nothing crule). then when he's being a good boy treat him like a king. be his playmate and he'll fall, beleave me. to us, it is all fun and games.
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Re: How to tell Sag you love them
Tue, September 4, 2007 - 7:35 AMGood advice, Nathan. Thanks. So far all of our "serious" conversations have been not very serious at all. We express ourselves and address the issues at hand, but always in a playful way. Never fighting, yelling, crying -- never too serious. And I like it. It's a lot less stressful this way.
I like your approach. I did tell him that his behavior is not enough to make me want to end things right away, but that I do question how much I can take before I just can't take it anymore. So I did kind of give him that warning, and in the context of a playful but "serious" conversation.
Thanks again. Trying to stay lighthearted. One of the best things about being with my Sag so far is that I have learned the value of not taking everything so personally all the time.
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Re: How to tell Sag you love them
Tue, September 4, 2007 - 4:37 AMlol that's funny cuz you sound like ME and I'm a Sag.
I recently fell for a friend of mine (who I thought liked me... argh...) anyway all I wanted (want..) to go was gush my guts out about how much I loved (love...) him and how great I think we'd be together. blah blah blah blah blah. (sorry... bit bitter right now!)
my mates always tell me i'm in love with love.
whether or not that's a 'non-Sag' thing, i dunno. must be my virgo moon.
(altho, while i want love more than anything.... mooshy smooshy romantic shit makes me wanna vomit. lmfao.)
ok so maybe that's my advice. tell him how you feel!! NOW!!! before you fall farther as he might not be falling at all.... (sorry just be cautious there I'd hate to see another broken heart!) BUT... tell him in a way that isn't overly romantic. like... very calmly. keep your loveydovey emotions in check! that's how I roll anyway.... (probably how i DIDN'T win the Taurus, btw.... sighhhhhhh) -
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Re: How to tell Sag you love them
Tue, September 4, 2007 - 9:21 AMOH MY GOD Allison!
We have that in commom, i fell in love with a Taurus that i've been in a relationship for 5 years i told him that i love him and that i'm in love w/ him and I too didn't win a Turus sighhhhh. well we are still kind of together, but he doesn't know if he is ready to love anyone... sound like BS no? -
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Re: How to tell Sag you love them
Tue, September 4, 2007 - 3:10 PM
BE OPEN.
TALK TO HIM/HER.
As a Sage who knows he has a hair-trigger 'bolt reflex' when friends, or others, kind of express something unexpected out of the blue...., just make sure he knows whats going on inside u.....
Sages ,esp the self-aware ones....are sensitive as well..., and if u left them know ur vulnerabilities, etc.., we can't HELP but feel for you, putting ourselves in your shoes..., usually short circuiting the bolt or bad reaction.......
If things have always been discussed in detail, and HONESTLY, and with the understanding that 'These are my feelings....' than ANY subject can be broached without the centaur feeling threatened or overwhelmed, or obligated.....
BUt what stands out to me is the idea that u've only expressed FULLY to him the things that BOTHER you about him............
WHY DOESN'T he know absolutely every special little thing that he does that has MADE u fall for him.....
Believe me - THAT'S what he needs to know, more than anything....... -
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Re: How to tell Sag you love them
Tue, September 4, 2007 - 7:34 PMI know ST, you are right. It's not that I don't tell him the things I love about him, it's that when we have "serious" (like "look, this is bothering me") it's about the things that bother me about him...i am much more spontaneous in telling him the things I like about him. In fact one time he asked me what it was I like about him and I sat there for what seemed like forever just rattling off his special qualities. And his stunning good looks didn't even make the list!
Whenever I talk to him about the things that bother me, I always make sure to compensate. I try not to do it in a serious or accusatory way, to approach it with humor. And I always give him lots of kisses. I know I can be a little oversensitive. Well, I know now. I never thought it was a problem before. Now I am thinking about it in new ways.
I just spoke to him on the phone. I had been worrying all day that this is the last straw, he's finally tired of me and my "talks." But we had a great, fun conversation just now. He always says he has thick skin, and he is one of the few people who says that for whom it's really true! So I am learning the utility of this thick-skinned phenomenon.
He never shuts down when I try to talk to him about what's on my mind. It's his (sometimes) rude and crude behavior in general that bothers me, but when it comes to me and us and personal matters, he is always warm and open. So I need to remember this, and remind myself that that is what is important.
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Re: How to tell Sag you love them
Tue, September 4, 2007 - 4:29 PMarrrrgh MEN!!!
are we after the same guy!??!? hahahaha.....
i know my friend is still emotionally unavailable to any romantic feelings (he was hurt badly...) BUT i also know most guys will be pulled out of that rut eventually by a fantastically amazing (looking) girl. and while he likes me enough as a friend, i just wasn't amazing (looking) enough i guess!
anyway, whenever i hear "i don't want a relationship right now", i always know "with you" goes at the end of that sentence. it's the hard truth but more often than not it is the truth.
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Re: How to tell Sag you love them
Tue, September 4, 2007 - 7:36 PMwow, well everyone is saying to go ahead and go for it. maybe i will.
i'm still not sure. i'm kind of confused...how can i be in love with him and still, at times, find him to be so objectionable to me? He just fascinates me. And I'm so into that. -
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Re: How to tell Sag you love them
Wed, September 5, 2007 - 4:39 AM
The only caution i would then also offer, Mag, is try to be sure then that it isn't just a 'fascination' / novelty thing.....
Do u HAVE answer for WHY his 'rudeness and crudeness' bother u so...? Is there some kind of self -recognition on some level thats going on...
I know in the past often, the things that bothered me STRONGLY about some people were sometimes things that i didnt like in myself.....
How do u feel in different situations... Is it when he's r & c in FRONT of others that bothers u most....? Did u maybe at first find his r & c -ness to be slightly endearing at first, and only more recently troublesome...? That to me seems like very normal settling of that initial rush of 'how great' a new person is......
And,Mag ... isnt "how can i be in love with him and still, at times, find him to be so objectionable" sort of at times the POINT of being in love with someone............
The feelings u have are there for a reason.... to teach u something about YOURSELF.., or lead u to something u need or want.......or to make sure u recognize someone who should stay in ur life(in whatever form)......or who knows...
Just always examine ur feelings, and express ur appreciation, joy AND ur confusion and fear to him.., all in the same fun, open, 'non-serious'
way..., and things will happen as they are 'supposed' to..., even if u don't know how that is.....
Namste to u and him....... -
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Re: How to tell Sag you love them
Wed, September 5, 2007 - 8:08 AM>>> Did u maybe at first find his r & c -ness to be slightly endearing at first, and only more recently troublesome...? That to me seems like very normal settling of that initial rush of 'how great' a new person is......
Hi ST. No. In fact, I was initially quite put off by it. I didn't think this would turn into anything. I distinctly remember thinking upon first meeting him that he was a little too unconventional, a little too brusque for my usual tastes. But then we started hanging out and he just grew on me...had so many other qualities that attracted me, and I am the type of person who is always open to new experiences.
I want to accept him for who he is, and I am doing that more and more each day. It's not so much the r & c-ness in front of others...it's as it pertains to ME. I don't want him to change any of his behavior except in the manner he treats me...the thing is, he seems to be responsive to my feelings on this...he doesn't reject my thoughts on the matter. which proves to me that his r & c behavior is not coming from a place of disrespect...it's just a personality trait i am not used to dealing with. but i can accept it as long as he really does respect me.
i'm definitely learning from this relationship, and people who know me have said that it's changing me, in a positive way.
aside from all the serious stuff...he's just tons of fun!
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Re: How to tell Sag you love them
Wed, September 5, 2007 - 10:14 AM
Much blessings to u and him, Mag..... U sound like ur doing ok on your own....
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